http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/scimedemail/la-me-rave-20100629,0,6797442.storyThis is the most infuriating article Ive read in awhile. Raves dont cause drug overdoses, people who abuse drugs do.
As an ER employee and seeing kids around my age arrive at the ER for drug overdose and injuries caused by their own stupidity can be frustrating. I understand this on the medical side but don't understand why they want to cancel the events. That's just asinine as a ratio of 100:185,000 is real good. When kids use drugs they assume all responsibility, it's their own fault if they go into respiratory or cardiac arrest due to overdose. Pretty sad site resuscitating a kid, then seeing the parents and breaking the news.
100:185,000 isnt a good ratio.
the fire marshall reported just over 200 injuries for event that had 185,000 people attending. sounds pretty successful to me. its sad and heartbreaking though that people have to die, young people die, kids die but its not really the fault of insomniac. insomniac didnt hold a gun to these kids head and tell them to take those pills.
Yeah just because you bring more people the next year doesn't mean it's a good thing. The more crowded it gets the more dangerous it is, for everyone. I stopped going to insomniac events for that reason Fuck EDCInsomniac < HARDNo Doubt.Please dont let this happen to HARD @destructo
FUCK YES KcNekro!!!!!!! i cant stand insomniac!
Some may not agree with me but I rather have an event shut down and participants given their money back rather than an event where 200 people are hurt and someone dies.
@bobby_james Yea, I thought it was going to be shut down. I was at the event and saw all the shit that was going on. I told my friend, "I think they might cancel tomorrow's event". I agree with you bro, I rather see an event canceled then know a kid died due to his or another person's stupid actions. I disagree I think it's an amazing ratio, I thought it would be near the 1,000. @KcNekro Unfortunately it happened in HARD Summer 2009. The event was canceled due to all the kids jumping down to the ground floor. Many injuries that night a kid got badly injured when jumped down and hit a rail. I saw it with my own eyes. You can't blame the people who organize the event for the stupid actions of those kids. Blame the people who are breaking the rules and end up getting hurt.
I was @ HARD summer 09 @flippinsweetjosh, that was also because of the venue, and the amount of people let into that venue. crazy night, we booked it when we saw the police out side, I got into a fight with some asshole cause his gf spilled her beer on me. it was stupid. I hate fighting.I used to go to insomniac events, I went for five year's and in 08 it just got lame, overcrowded and I couldn't enjoy it anymore and I still don't, so I stopped going.
2 guys die @ ETD Pop from overdoses and now a 15-yr old dies @ EDC. what is it with people getting out-of-control with drug usage?there is a temporary ban on raves @ the coliseum pending review (EDC was supposed to be a 16+ event) and now some la county douchebag wants to extend that ban to all raves even ones already planned in socal. they do that and they will have a shitstorm on their hands. (aka welcome back, age of the illegal rave)*http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/la-coliseum-bans-raves-after-teens-suspected-overdose-death/19538238
@flippinsweetjosh Look at it this way. The City of Torrance has 149,000 people. If one day 185 people were injured, it would be breaking news for that entire week. We've just come to accept it as 'rave culture' but we shouldnt. And we won't have these problems at HARD because its General admission around and no one will be hopping gates. And hopefully Gary is learning from EDC's mistakes and putting proper bathrooms all around the venue and professional security which I believe he is cause after HARD Summer 09 every event has gotten better.But basically HARD MIA, Audiotistic, Love Festival, and HARD Summer will all determine the fate of raves in Southern California so I hope they all run smoothly and get these politicians off our back and let us rave.
funny how nobody saw this coming, I mean its drug paradise when your at the event but its a person's choice to take them or not.I saw this coming like since rave we're so call "in" haha crazy right?events being shut down instead of being continued I would accept the shut down so nobody will get hurt but EDC everybody wanted to be there since it was the new thing.(sorry if I make no sense)
To be fair @ Bobby_James, HARD is not a rave, HARD books acts of other genre's also.some artists like N*E*R*D, Chromeo, Rye Rye, Amanda Blank etc.
Yeah 'festival' I know. But you be silly to think what HARD does wont have any implications on the rave culture. Audiotistic isn't a 'rave' either. Just look at any news article from last August when HARD Summer shut down. They made sure to put HARD was a rave.Either way it's an event where a majority of the artists are under the EDM umbrella. And if I'm not mistaken this year's HARD Summer doesnt have any alternative acts.
@Bobby_James It's an event, you expect to have injured individuals. We get over 10-60 injured patients in a day at the ER I work in and I live in a small city of110,000 people. @KcNekro Yea, I know what you mean. I almost got into one at the Bloody Beetroots concert due to fucking idiots pushing and shoving my girl just to take her dancing spot.I think they should really get more stricter on how many tickets are sold and raise up the age limit to 18+. Sorry kiddos, you kids are too much of a liability.I think the term "rave" is what people with out knowledge of the scene or "culture" use the term "rave" to label events.
@flippinsweetjosh W O R Di agree
it would be nice to make it 18+ but theres no doubt there would be WAY more bum rushing and fence hoppin.. and probably make it way more dangerous
I dont think so @onesixlove once your 18+ you cant get away with what a minor can, your fucked. go ahead and try it spend 1,000+ bucks on fines and jail time instead of $60 for the damn ticket to the event
no i meant 15-17 year olds would be trying to bum rush if it was 18+
girl Dies at a rave, EVERYBODY FLIPS OUT!but yet its like taking woodstock in there with all of those drugs i mean its like stepping into soulwax video, i mean its "the e talking" but for that girl it was the "od talking" for her tsk tsk tsk too bad she didn't survive to tell her friends how cool it was to take what she took, i feel sorry for her farewell girl that i don't even know. RIP
There's a small detail that bothers me still...It is said that she drunk from water with Ecstasy in it...From what I heard from my friends, water with Ecstasy in it tastes nasty as hell...Why didn't she noticed the bad taste and stop drinking it? If she did stop, I'm pretty sure one sip didn't kill her...Well, I don't know, but with all due respect, may she rest in peace...
R.I.P~Sasha Rodriguez~this what they should do..age limit 18+..minors shouldnt be going to these things ANYWAY..then second everybody should just be coo.security should be better because me and my friends almost got run down by these guys rushing the gates and the security just run inside and close the gates.plus they cant ban them because ppl bought and are buying there tickets as we speak.i doubt they will give ppl there money bak..*crosses fingers* dnt cancel or else gona be lots of mad ppl lol and we already went thru lakers winning we dont need more madness lol
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